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in Intensive Care: My 82-Year-Old Dad's in ICU After Ischemic Stroke and Failed Extubation! Can He Recover?”
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Hi, it’s Patrik Hutzel from intensivecarehotline.com with another
quick tip for families in intensive care.
I have an email from Samantha today who says,
“Hi Patrik,
I appreciate all that you do for people in intensive care. I have found your videos and information. Very helpful and
reassuring already.
Unfortunately, my 82-year-old father is in ICU in Turkey. We have managed to scrape together enough money to get him a Medivac flight back to the U.K. where the medical treatment is free in the NHS.
My father couldn’t get medical insurance at his age as he had already had a
stroke, a bleed on the brain which resulted in surgery, and he was intubated. He then went on to make a full recovery and he has been living a healthy lifestyle in Turkey. This episode was 4 years ago.
This time around, he fell over and had chest pain and found out his arteries were 70% and 90% blocked. So, he went in for a routine surgery on the 90% 1. Then he ended up with another ischemic stroke. So, he was put in intensive care where he got a chest infection. He came off the intubation but couldn’t sustain sufficient breathing because he still had the chest infection. So, they put him back in the induced coma and back on the breathing tube.
This was devastating because we spoke to him and despite being confused, he still knew our names and asked what was happening to him. So, he’s now on a stronger antibiotic and we will get the test results tomorrow
or Monday morning.
Turkey is extremely strict when it comes to allowing visitors in the intensive care unit. I had to fight to see him just for 20 minutes a day. It’s inhumane in my view, as I believe in the power of touch, prayer, and words of encouragement, positivity in general.
My father is a
strong, fit man who recovered fully before. So, I believe he has every chance he could do it again. What do you think?”
So, like I’ve been saying for a long, long time here at intensivecarehotline.com, the biggest challenge for families in intensive care simply that they don’t know what they don’t know. They don’t know what to look for. They don’t know what questions to ask. They
don’t know their rights and they don’t know how to manage doctors and nurses in intensive care.
So, with a 90% blockage and he had one type of surgery, where they’ve unblocked the artery, and he couldn’t be extubated the first time around doesn’t mean he can’t come around the second time around. Also, like I’ve been saying, approximately 90% of intensive care patients survive. So, the odds are in your dad’s favor.
Now, with the antibiotic for Monday or when you get the result back, they probably started him on a broad-spectrum antibiotic until they get the right result, and then they can target specifically.
Now, in the meantime, what you need to look for is, what happens if they take him off sedation and opiates. What ventilator settings is he on? Is he hemodynamically stable? Is he on inotropes, vasopressors,
vasodilators? Is he in an in a regular or irregular heart rhythm? For example, because the stroke might have actually been triggered by an irregular heart rhythm such as A-Fib or atrial fibrillation also known as AF. So, you may want to find out whether that might triggered the actual stroke because if it has caused the stroke, you need to make sure he’s back in a regular heart rhythm.
If they, for whatever reason, couldn’t get him back into a regular heart rhythm such as a sinus rhythm, what are they doing for it? Is he on amiodarone on digoxin? Have they corrected electrolytes such
as potassium or magnesium? Have they suggested a cardioversion or potentially even done a cardioversion to get him back in a regular heart rhythm? So once again, the biggest challenge for families in intensive here is that they don’t know what they don’t know.
Now, the other thing is because he’s got a chest infection. Now, the longer someone is on a ventilator, the higher the risk for a chest infection and you
don’t want your dad having another chest infection. So, get him off sedation, get him off the opiates, if you can. Try and get him weaned off the ventilator and then either get him extubated as quickly as possible. That
would be the quickest way for you to get him on the mend.
But if for whatever reason, he can’t be weaned off the ventilator,
he might need a tracheostomy. Look, I couldn’t agree more with you that you shouldn’t have to fight for your visiting your dad beyond the 20 minutes that you’re allowed. That sounds more like a prison, and it is inhumane. I believe the same than you do in touch, prayer, words of encouragement. He
certainly can survive this episode as well if he survived the last episode. But by the looks of things, he has some hurdles to overcome.
You should also talk to the neurologist, and I understand there might be a language barrier if your dad is in Turkey in ICU there but you should talk to the neurologist in particular about the brain damage that might have been sustained but you should also ask them
to get a weaning plan to get him off the ventilator and let him to go back to normality as much as possible because every day on the ventilator in an induced coma is simply deconditioning your dad and you certainly don’t want that.
So, that is my quick tip for today. I hope that helps.
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This is Patrik Hutzel from intensivecarehotline.com and I will talk to
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Take care for now.