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Quick Tip for Families in Intensive Care: Can a Patient in ICU be Mobilized with a Nasogastric Tube or Do They Need a PEG (Percutaneous Endoscopic Gastrostomy) Tube?

Hi, it’s Patrik Hutzel from intensivecarehotline.com with another quick tip for families in intensive care.

So today, I have an email from one of our members, I’m going to read out and then I will obviously critique it.

“Hi Patrik,

Your information is very helpful. I found several articles online also and see that what the doctor in ICU was telling me was not true that Jim can get up and walk with a nasogastric tube in and that it doesn’t have to be removed each time for physical therapy or walking. People even go to restaurants and do normal activities with the nasogastric tube in and can even eat and drink with it.”

So, I did make a video a few days ago where, again, the ICU was trying to push one of our clients to consent to a PEG (Percutaneous Endoscopic Gastrostomy) tube for one of their family members in ICU, for our client’s husband, and that’s just simply not appropriate.

The doctor was saying that clients or patients can only be mobilized with a PEG tube and not with a nasogastric tube. What a whole lot of crap, excuse my language, but that’s simply not true. It’s a lie, as a matter of fact. Plenty of patients get mobilized with a nasogastric tube. So, it’s just a matter of mindset and having the right skills and expertise available to make that happen.

So, she actually continues, “And my husband can practice swallowing his saliva and the speech pathologist can keep trying to help him swallow. If there is a cuff on the tracheostomy tube, I read that makes swallowing difficult. If not, he can put a finger over the hole and begin practicing talking, but then also inflated or deflated cuffs. Either way, it can make pronunciation or speaking still difficult.

The airway being blocked, I guess that is why the doctor said an airway needs to be opened up. The yellow mucus pus discharge seems to be the real problem making progress weaning off the tracheostomy and the nasogastric tube. As soon as he can get back to breathing and eating on his own, he won’t need those tubes anymore.”

So that is all accurate what you’re saying here, not only with the nasogastric tube, but you can practice swallowing saliva, and the speech pathologist can help him try swallow. Yes, absolutely. The speech pathologist needs to try doing some swallowing tests.

Now, in order to do the swallowing test, the cuff needs to be down. You have correctly pointed out that the tracheostomy cuff will make it difficult to swallow. Well, it almost makes it impossible to swallow, that is the whole purpose of a cuff. It actually helps to prevent an aspiration pneumonia. 

It helps to prevent aspiration pneumonia because the airway is sealed. The tracheostomy sits in the back of the throat and basically seals off the airway, the lungs, i.e., the block or the balloon disables saliva to drip down into the lungs. So, that’s on the one hand, that’s a good thing when patients can’t swallow.

On the other hand, it’s not such a good thing if people are ready to swallow again, and if people need to be weaned off the tracheostomy. So, the cuff is the first thing that needs to then go down to assess swallowing.

Also, whilst the cuff is up, the vocal cords are paralyzed and once the vocal cords are paralyzed, speaking is not possible. So then again, once the cuff is down, yes, you could put your finger on the hole and then that might activate speaking, assuming people can mouth words or a speaking mouth like a Passy-Muir speaking valve is then another device to get practicing to talk again.

Now, with the yellow mucus pus discharge and seems to be the real problem making progress weaning off the tracheostomy and the nasogastric tube. Yes, that might be. So maybe too many secretions are still the issue. If too many secretions are still the issue, there’s a number of things that can be done. Once again, mobilization will help. Just mobilize it even more, get it all out, clear it all out and then hopefully, it gets less over time.

Also, if you’re doing more suction, then you’re also stimulating. So, the less frequently you’re suctioning, the better it is, the higher chances you can remove a tracheostomy tube eventually. Other things that might be done is atropine drops and potentially glycopyrrolate to reduce the mucus. So, I hope that helps.

One of the takeaways again today is do not give consent to a PEG tube. Once again, there is exceptions to the rule. If someone cannot be weaned off the ventilator beyond the shadow of a doubt, maybe they have a spinal injury, they have been ventilated for months, years on end, but that is not the case here. If your loved one has a chance to get off the ventilator, you should not give consent to a PEG tube full stop.

So, that is my quick tip for today.

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