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Quick Tip for Families in Intensive Care: My Dad has a Pressure Sore on His Foot. Will that Stop Him Weaning Off the Ventilator& Tracheostomy?

Hi, it’s Patrik Hutzel from intensivecarehotline.com with another quick tip for families in intensive care.

Today, I have an email from Heather who says, 

“Hi Patrik, 

My dad has a foot wound on his heel that was previously surgically drained, biopsied, and debrided, and treated with IV antibiotics. He had a wound VAC (vacuum assisted closure) and then the wound was dry. Nothing growing in the cultures taken.

He was transferred and finished his course of IV antibiotics for blood infection. When I noticed the foot bandage was not being changed and checked each day, I asked the nurse about it. She showed me that her directions were to only change if the bandage appeared dirty or there was a bad smell coming from it.

I spoke to the doctor and got assurance that the wound care physician was changing the bandage every two days and monitoring it because they didn’t want to disturb new skin growth. We were assured that there was no infection, no drainage, and no need for it to be escalated to a surgical consult.

Then the wound care doctor met with my elderly mother alone and said the wound doesn’t look good and part of it looks soft and they will debride but probably can’t handle this type of wound and someone else will need to, and the doctor made a chop motion.

This was right after a family meeting where they assured us, he would have access to a foot ankle surgeon if needed, that wound care was communicating with the infectious disease doctor. I can’t now take my father to see his podiatrist foot ankle specialist surgeon because after entering an LTAC (long term acute care) and aspirating, getting pneumonia, he needed to be put on a ventilator and then finally had a tracheostomy surgery on the 14th of February and is in the process of weaning. The weaning is going well. He’s breathing on CPAP (continuous positive airway pressure) for about 7 to 8 hours per day at a very low-pressure rate and respiratory therapy has recommended that he starts on a T-piece or T-bar. 

I don’t want to set back his weaning process. I can’t ignore the possibility of bone infection and it’s not being monitored and him being taken off of IV antibiotics too early. How should I best ask both to be addressed?

All of this is complicated by this facility refusing to give me the doctor’s orders, progress notes, and nurses’ notes. My mother and I are supposed to be satisfied with the nurse explaining to us verbally if they have time. I have asked for the notes and offered to pay. They have updated me that if I pay for the pages, I can have a bring down, but it will be weeks afterwards. 

Best. 

– Heather.” 

Thank you, Heather for sharing this difficult situation with me.

Here is what I would do next. First off, it’s good that he’s making progress with the weaning and I’m surprised that he’s making progress in LTAC because as you probably know, I don’t have anything good to say about LTAC in general.

However, here’s what I will say. Given it might go well with weaning, but it certainly doesn’t go well with wound care and with wound care specialists in particular. I’m not surprised even that your dad is in LTAC. In an ICU or in the hospital, he would be getting the weaning and the pressure area care. He would be getting both.

You also haven’t shared whether he’s got a stage 1,2,3 or even 4 pressure sores. So, it would be good to find out what stage pressure sore he has, but that’s also why it’s important that you get access to the medical records because that would all be documented in there.

Let me clarify this. First off, you absolutely have the right to access medical records. That’s not a privilege. That is a right. So, make no mistake here and keep the pressure on and don’t let them get away with that. Often what it takes is either a second party to come in and put pressure on them like we do here at intensivecarehotline.com or we write a letter to hospital or LTAC executive and that will turn the needle 100%. 

So, it is important also that you check obviously the wound daily. They need to check the wound daily but even you can request that you can have a look at the wound daily. What is it that they have to hide?

So, what is difficult here is if your dad can’t get mobilized because of the foot wound that might set him back with the weaning, but I would also hope that the foot wound won’t delay him in weaning and won’t delay him getting out of bed.

So, it is important though that they take the pressure off his foot all the time and do the dressing changes every day and not only when it’s dirty like you refer to. That’s not very professional, that’s almost ridiculous, and a dressing needs to be changed either daily or there are some dressings where you can leave them 2, 3, sometimes even seven 7 for hydrocolloid dressings but it really depends on what the wound looks like.

So, those are your options here in terms of, first off, get access to the medical records. Once again, it’s a right, not a privilege. You need to put the pressure on. Set deadlines, tell them you need access to the medical records tomorrow at three o’clock. You don’t need to explain yourself. You just ask for what you want and hopefully your dad can also stay on the CPAP overnight, I believe, now, at the moment, it’s during the day.

What’s also important is for your dad to get in a good day and night rhythm because that will help him to be strong during the day and wean during the day and hopefully you can rest at night and that will hopefully give him more and more time off the ventilator during the day. That is really important.

Once he has more time off the ventilator during the day, maybe they can start a speaking valve trial, maybe they can also try a tracheostomy capping to see what they can breathe without the tracheostomy. I know it sounds a little bit far-fetched at the moment if he’s still fully ventilated overnight, but those should be his goals. Plus, the mobilization. Plus, changing his dressing regularly and not only when it’s dirty and that is not good practice. So, I hope that helps and I hope that answers your questions, Heather.

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